[brooklyn]

I downloaded the bioshock demo but havent played it yet. I got too many games and not enough time right now..lol I got the new metroid and havent played it enough or beat it yet so it didnt seem to make sense to buy bioshock.

[contagion]

@Tyler Durden 4452 wrote:

1.Oblivions far from my favorite game, it’s a good game. The storyline sucks ass and it’s overrated as well. I’d give it a 8.8-9. I just cited it earlier as a similar game with more gameplay and replayability.
2.Did I say all were paid off and biased? No. I said many are paid off which is true, as you can find flaws in there ratings system. For instance games that gamestop gets exclusive inside info on before it releases they tend to rate better. And they will ignore huge gaping flaws and only bring up minor stuff like a few lags. Which is bs. Why should I care what reviews have to say? Do their tastes speak for mine? Or for Jhigh or anyone else who puts stock in another man’s opinion? Be a leader not a follower kid.
3.Again where did I say they were all paid off? I said many meaning a portion of the demographic stop putting words in my mouth.
4.Why would you even need to bring up game reviews? What does that prove? I never said you didnt like it, the whole “Well gee! They liked it” Bs is so childish. Thats like with film and music, who cares what reviews anything gets. Howard the duck is a critically panned movie but I like it. That’s your opinion it’s the best on the 360, doesn’t make the shit true. Just like you were pmsing over high preferring rainbow six to gears of war. I prefer Ghost Recon to Gears of war so kick rocks with that bs son.
5.The entire game populace? Right. I never said the game was bad, I said it was good but a better rental then a buy then you started acting like a chick in heat and saying well you didnt explore it, blah blah blah. Have you read EVERY review site in existence? I don’t care what other people think about a game, because Im not them and they have no bearing over my opinion. So please go pick up some tampons for yourself and stop putting words in my mouth kid.

Also as for the majority thinks bs, that’s like saying the majority at one point in america thought of blacks as being subhuman. Doesn’t make the shit true. Bad comparison I know but you get the point.

1. Never said it was your favorite game
2. Oh, it’s true, oh okay, I guess I’ll just have to take your uneducated assumption on that one. Unless of course perhaps you can prove that? I could see maybe about 5 reviewers that are sites or magazines I could think of as possibly paid off. Does that eliminate the other 50-60?
3. Why care for reviews? Because many times they are correct. You like GR2? Hmm, it happens to have got good reviews. You like Oblivion? Good reviews. Rainbow Six Vegas? Good reviews. Is it just a coincidence that the majority of the games that are most popular and liked most and played most got good reviews because THEY’RE GOOD GAMES? Nah. Couldn’t be, there were “many” paid off and they just happened to coincide with the general gaming public of 360’s opinions.
4. I brought up reviews in the case of Oblivion because you said “durr you follow the sheep” and I retorted with a logical explanation of how I don’t just follow all game reviews seeing as how I didn’t like Oblivion, a title which got GOTY. I don’t care all that much for GR2 or R6V either, they’re good games but not great imo. And because I happen to have defended Bioshock and said one thing about reviews you leap to conclusions about sheep following and stereotypical cheesy sayings like “be a leader, not a follow ‘kid'” as if you know my age or what I follow or enjoy and what it’s based on. I think that pretty much answers your pointlessly asked question of why I brought up a review on this number that you responded to.
5. I disagreed with your opinion on Bioshock and pointed out that my opinion is not one of the minority seeing as how many sites agree with me and many magazines as well and you have to throw out tons of ridiculously weak and irrelevant stereotypes and assumptions like blacks being subhumans in the eyes of people at one time and me being a follower because I agree with something someone said. I could easily leap to retarded conclusions about how you’re following the sheep on GR2 which is a small step up from GR and how you’re just a franchise fanboy but I won’t do that because I don’t know your reasons for enjoying the game nor do I presume to. Unlike you, I don’t think of myself as being able to tell peoples motives behind their dislikes or likes based on a forum debate. And also, I don’t feel the overwhelming urge to riddle my posts with weak ass insults to take up space and make it look like I’m saying something intelligent. Maybe one day you’ll learn to do the same.

You know you’re reaching to save your lost argument when you have to bring up the completely irrelevant and poorly compared idea that once people thought of blacks as less than humans. You go from “Bioshock : Buy vs Rent” to discussing racist thought patterns of long ago. Glad you’re staying on topic. Keep reaching.

Thanks for playing kid, try not to get too upset over a video game board, alright kid? Thank you kid. :rolleyes:

[Tyler Durden]

1.There are more sites then that, and proof? Do you have proof that the sites don’t accept bribes? No. It’s called making an educated guess, you just look at the trends when it comes to ratings. Especially franchises where little changes over the course of the games but they consistently get high ratings despite that and bitch about minor things in some games that exist in other ones but they aren’t brought up. You presume 5 to be. You have proof? No it’s called reasonable doubt.
2.Many times reviews are correct, many times they arent. Why would you even cite as oh it’s popular and other people agree? That doesn’t mean crap, because the halo games consistently get good ratings and they bore the hell out of me. Taste is to the individual, the majority could think any number of things. Doesnt make a good any more or less entertaining untill you come up with your own assumption.
3.I call everyone kid, kid. You’re more then likely older then me and I say don’t follow the sheep because what does bringing up reviews add to an arguement? Everyone looks for different things in games and when I talked about oblivion I never once brought up reviews because they are insignificant.
4.I said ghost recon, not ghost recon 2. I havent played ghost recon 2, you’re the one who when I stated I think bioshock’s overrated got his feelings hurt and tried to ask whether I’ve done this and that and tried to correct me on the number of endings and there are 3 not 2. Why’d I bring up what I did? They have nothing in common but it’s the same train of thought by saying a large number of people adhere to one idea so that means it must be right or more valid because you disagree with the majority. What I said was everybody in the world could climax while playing that game and give it game of a lifetime what does that even mean if people are not into that style of gameplay? Or if the game doesn’t appeal to them? That a large number of review sites are right and they’re wrong? Bs, the zeldia franchise is grossly overrated and I can’t stand that series. I still overall said it was a good game. Game of the year? No, best of all time? Hell no. It has it’s fair share of flaws and I recognized that. Whereas you had to try to pick apart my reasons for saying the game wasn’t all that when Im entitled to my opinion on the game. I wouldn’t have said crap to you untill you tried to make assumptions about me.

Am I getting mad? No, because I really don’t care. I insult everyone so don’t feel special. Evaluate yourself for picking apart my reasons for not being into an overrated game in the first place when I still said it was good, kid.

@contagion 4350 wrote:

Maybe you just didn’t explore enough. I got a ton of shit on the first way through and explored like all hell and purposely took as long as possible to best enjoy myself and the game, I could’ve just ran through in half the time but I chose not to because that’s depriving myself of a great gaming experience. Obviously I’m not alone in that opinion, just look up the Bioshock reviews at http://www.gamerankings.com. And Oblivion is SOOOO WACK. That is the most boring overrated shit I’ve ever seen in my life, hands down. And R6 being better than Gears? Please. The only people who think that are people who are terrible at Gears just like when people hate on Halo cause they suck at it or don’t have a 360. Vegas was not that great and in the end it will be Gears that will be remembered while Vegas will go down as “just another” R6 game. Gears isn’t the best selling 360 game for no reason, it’s just simply the best multiplayer game on the market. And COD4, judging from the beta is going to be the best multiplayer game for awhile once it comes out. Yes, that’s right, better than Halo 3. I wasn’t all that impressed with the beta for Halo 3 but COD4 is like a ridiculously sick modern day version of Counter-Strike.

Bioshock > Oblivion
and
COD4 > Gears > R6V

For anyone who has trouble sleeping just pick up Oblivion and play for more than 5 minutes because the combat system is about as exciting as watching grass grow.

And for anyone who doubts me on Bioshock, just go read the reviews on gamerankings.com, it’s a compilation of all the review scores for a game averaged together for an overall score. Check if more of the reviews seem to agree with my opinion or with Tyler Durdens.

Very ironic post for someone who spoke on me jumping to conclusions. The only people who think r6 is better then gow suck at the game? Or wait what about people who don’t like Halo? You do this even more then I do kid. Then you say anyone who doubts you on bioshock to go read the reviews and see whose opinion they are closer to? Lol, you’re funny. That’s putting emphasis on reviews right there not just using it as a point of reference. How a game will be remembered? Or how much a game sells? Pathetic.

[J High]

^ damn ya’ll got alot of free time to make posts that long to keep arguing a dead point

GMX on COD!...We get OURS!

[contagion]

@Tyler Durden 4486 wrote:

1.There are more sites then that, and proof? Do you have proof that the sites don’t accept bribes? No. It’s called making an educated guess, you just look at the trends when it comes to ratings. Especially franchises where little changes over the course of the games but they consistently get high ratings despite that and bitch about minor things in some games that exist in other ones but they aren’t brought up. You presume 5 to be. You have proof? No it’s called reasonable doubt.
2.Many times reviews are correct, many times they arent. Why would you even cite as oh it’s popular and other people agree? That doesn’t mean crap, because the halo games consistently get good ratings and they bore the hell out of me. Taste is to the individual, the majority could think any number of things. Doesnt make a good any more or less entertaining untill you come up with your own assumption.
3.I call everyone kid, kid. You’re more then likely older then me and I say don’t follow the sheep because what does bringing up reviews add to an arguement? Everyone looks for different things in games and when I talked about oblivion I never once brought up reviews because they are insignificant.
4.I said ghost recon, not ghost recon 2. I havent played ghost recon 2, you’re the one who when I stated I think bioshock’s overrated got his feelings hurt and tried to ask whether I’ve done this and that and tried to correct me on the number of endings and there are 3 not 2. Why’d I bring up what I did? They have nothing in common but it’s the same train of thought by saying a large number of people adhere to one idea so that means it must be right or more valid because you disagree with the majority. What I said was everybody in the world could climax while playing that game and give it game of a lifetime what does that even mean if people are not into that style of gameplay? Or if the game doesn’t appeal to them? That a large number of review sites are right and they’re wrong? Bs, the zeldia franchise is grossly overrated and I can’t stand that series. I still overall said it was a good game. Game of the year? No, best of all time? Hell no. It has it’s fair share of flaws and I recognized that. Whereas you had to try to pick apart my reasons for saying the game wasn’t all that when Im entitled to my opinion on the game. I wouldn’t have said crap to you untill you tried to make assumptions about me.

Am I getting mad? No, because I really don’t care. I insult everyone so don’t feel special. Evaluate yourself for picking apart my reasons for not being into an overrated game in the first place when I still said it was good, kid.

Very ironic post for someone who spoke on me jumping to conclusions. The only people who think r6 is better then gow suck at the game? Or wait what about people who don’t like Halo? You do this even more then I do kid. Then you say anyone who doubts you on bioshock to go read the reviews and see whose opinion they are closer to? Lol, you’re funny. That’s putting emphasis on reviews right there not just using it as a point of reference. How a game will be remembered? Or how much a game sells? Pathetic.

1. More sites than that? Oh really. List off the major reviewers : EGM, GI, IGN, Gamespot, Gamepro. That’s five. I could see a company possibly paying off a reviewer that somebody who isn’t more than a casual gamer would read, but all the insignificant ones too? Please. Another assumption. And are they just paid off because you disagree with them? Or is it just an assumption, like your so called “Reasonable doubt” being actually an assumption considering other than judging by review scores written and given by people who surely play games much more than you or I that you disagree with, AKA you have a differing opinion, you say THEY MUST BE PAID OFF REASONABLE DOUBT LOL KIDZ LOL
2. You should rephrase that to “Many times reviews are correct imo and many times they aren’t imo.” because a review is neither right nor wrong, it’s simply the opinion of someone whose PAID to have their opinion told to the masses and to judge and seperate the supposed good from bad games. Are these people paid for their job for no reason? Were they picked from hats? Or are they knowledgeable professionals with more insight into gaming and the industry itself than you or I could ever have?
3. The idea of majority rule is behind the concept of democracy. Why do we vote? How do we elect the leader of our country? How do we pass laws to govern our country? How do things get passed in the UN? By a majority opinion agreeing. Why do games sell more than others? Because a majority finds them better. Why cite reviews at all? Because when a majority of the gaming industry whom are all professionals are agreeing, 9/10 times they’ve got it right. Sure, some guys get good scores that aren’t as good as their score may tell, but that’s all in the eyes of the player. I’m simply saying my opinion is the majority opinion, that’s all there is to it and because you’re in the minority of opinions there’s no reason to be upset, remember, be a leader not a follower.
4. Wrong, there’s 2 endings. Look it up. There was originally going to be 3, but due to the developers having to censor the 3rd they cut it from the game. There was a clip of it in the PC files of the game but it remains unused regardless of what you do and there might be a clip of it on youtube as well. It was supposed to be having to do with after you save the LS and meet them you start killing them. I made no assumption, I said “MAYBE” as in perhaps you did this. I didn’t say “HEY THIS WHAT YOU DID, END OF STORY”. I made no assumptions about the way you played the game at all. And you still have yet to address your reaching to save yourself with bringing up racist thought patterns and lame cheesy stereotypical sayings that you’d hear in middle school or maybe early high school. And thanks for assuming my feelings got hurt but then, that’s all you have to run off, assumptions. You assume people pay off review sites and since you supposedly are such a leader and don’t care about them, I don’t know why you’d even state that or know that. Then you assume you know me or how I feel. Interesting behaviors from somebody whose declaring that they wouldn’t have said crap until I made assumptions. I guess you can’t handle them when said to you but whenever you think them to be in your best interest they’re the only things out of your mouth. Btw, naming yourself Tyler Durden online is not very leader-like behavior, try not to be such a follower alright? There’s only like 6 million other people with that name. If you’ve read the book Fight Club, you’ll read in the beginning where the author wrote the intro about the millions of people influenced by that book and the millions who copy from it. Remember, “sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.”
And you cared enough to write a few massive responses and you know what psychiatry says about people who insult everyone, right?

I did it twice and I wasn’t being serious, I was playing around and making broad generalizations. I’m well aware that not everyone who dislikes GoW or Halo sucks at the games or doesn’t have a 360. But unlike you, I wasn’t being serious when I said those things. I referred to the review scores because once more it’s a compilation of opinions averaged together to give a general idea as to how the game is. If you can’t handle being in the minority of the opinion, don’t make excuses. And having a differing opinion from the majority doesn’t make you unique so please get out of that high school mentality which I imagine must be difficult when that’s where you’ll be going tomorrow.

[brooklyn]

Lol

[Tyler Durden]

Lol, this isn’t going to be another essay. So Ill put it like this, all you are doing is repeating yourself over and over again with shit I’ve already addressed. Im in college not highschool. I’m done with the assumptions that you continue throwing out and I already touched on the issue regarding the bad comparison and my theory on the review sites. As for reviews, every review in the world could say a game’s great does that really matter if you dont like it? So what’s the point of even citing them again? So come with something new or don’t come at all. And no I dont get upset over the net.

[D BiGGS]

contagion ftw:eek:

Still 3 lefts from making the right move;)...

[Tyler Durden]

Shut up fatboy ^

[D BiGGS]

:p…

Still 3 lefts from making the right move;)...

[contagion]

@Tyler Durden 4498 wrote:

Lol, this isn’t going to be another essay. So Ill put it like this, all you are doing is repeating yourself over and over again with shit I’ve already addressed. Im in college not highschool. I’m done with the assumptions that you continue throwing out and I already touched on the issue regarding the bad comparison and my theory on the review sites. As for reviews, every review in the world could say a game’s great does that really matter if you dont like it? So what’s the point of even citing them again? So come with something new or don’t come at all. And no I dont get upset over the net.

You’ve addressed barely anything and the only thing you’ve accomplished in any post is making a few pretty ridiculous and unfounded assumptions. You never touched on the issue of your wack comparison at any point. You’ve done nothing but come with assumptions and unfounded theories and excuses. So come with something new or don’t come at all. Funny how your own post perfectly described you. 😉 I understand that you’ve given up because there weren’t any assumptions for you to counter-assume about in my post other than the one about you being in high school, which is the only point you did counter. But hey, don’t be so hard on yourself, you win some you lose some.

I understand that your opinion on reviews and Bioshock won’t change, that’s fantastic. I’m glad your leadership qualities are thriving. Anyways, it’s been fun, maybe someday we can debate something with a FACTUAL basis behind it instead. Btw, COD4 beta tokens available at Gamespot.com if you do the free registration and enter for one. It works.

[Tyler Durden]

No I actually did touch on them, reread.

And eh Ill pass on the cod4 beta, haven’t got the time and Im not into cod all that much though theyre finally changing the series so i might have to check it out. And yeah factual basis is a must.

[contagion]

I did reread but unfortunately, I don’t see addressals and you don’t see me saying different things. It’s whatever though and is typical of two people who are unwilling to change their views upon an issue. I think the COD4 beta is impressively different from the rest of them and certainly a huge step up from COD3 which sucked so much it was ridiculous in comparison to COD2.

[J High]

I finally played Bioshock and I do have to say….it is a pretty fun game, love the interaction between everything you have to do, the weapons are ok, the EVO shit or whatever was ncie though, being able to get a bunch of different ones….but the game itself was pretty easy

GMX on COD!...We get OURS!

[Red Fangs]

Decided not to get it, cuz I couldn’t even beat the demo…

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